Jesus' Farewell Discourse - What's That?
John 14-17, HERE 😐 This part of the Gospel is referred to as farewell discourse at times . Jesus speaking in Jerusalem just before his passion . I sometimes dive into a deeper level . This particular case, I
need to study slowly and with input from scholarly sources especially Saint Thomas Aquinas. I found this great source
HERE: John 14 (translated by
Fabian R. Larcher, O.P.) includes : "there is a troubled state which arises from reason; this is to be praised and is not forbidden: "For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation" . Yet there is a different grief or troubled state of the reason itself; this is not laudable because it draws the reason from its proper course; this is forbidden:..."
I am able to make the distinction between godly grief and "troubled state of the reason " , I've been limited in properly reactions though. There are many different ways to distract myself to avoid the Spirit of God speaking .
The Gospel of John is a book to study over a lifetime . I think that his focus on the divine person of Christ, the mystery of the Trinity, plus the extensive details of the teaching of Jesus linked to the Prophets and messianic texts. ... There's a lot to unpack and organize before I truly understand even a short section .
Intervarsity Press, (bible gateway) has made available . on John: to see Jesus' Revelations to Disciples, I found this easier reading than Aquinas, in a Bible, chapter and verses format.
Other authors focus primarily on the practical application of Christ's words.
"The discourses in John's gospel address issues of living the life of faith in a context where there are any number of things that threaten faith. These discourses are not academic exercises or armchair ruminations on obscure topics. " - from Pastor Craig Koester
The Gospel of John is a long and multilayer book. Disputed in some scholarly circles, but admired by most for the focus on the divine person of Christ and the nature of our lives in relation to the Trinity .
HERE: John 14 (translated by
Fabian R. Larcher, O.P.) includes : "there is a troubled state which arises from reason; this is to be praised and is not forbidden: "For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation" . Yet there is a different grief or troubled state of the reason itself; this is not laudable because it draws the reason from its proper course; this is forbidden:..."
I am able to make the distinction between godly grief and "troubled state of the reason " , I've been limited in properly reactions though. There are many different ways to distract myself to avoid the Spirit of God speaking .
The Gospel of John is a book to study over a lifetime . I think that his focus on the divine person of Christ, the mystery of the Trinity, plus the extensive details of the teaching of Jesus linked to the Prophets and messianic texts. ... There's a lot to unpack and organize before I truly understand even a short section .
Intervarsity Press, (bible gateway) has made available . on John: to see Jesus' Revelations to Disciples, I found this easier reading than Aquinas, in a Bible, chapter and verses format.
Other authors focus primarily on the practical application of Christ's words.
"The discourses in John's gospel address issues of living the life of faith in a context where there are any number of things that threaten faith. These discourses are not academic exercises or armchair ruminations on obscure topics. " - from Pastor Craig Koester
The Gospel of John is a long and multilayer book. Disputed in some scholarly circles, but admired by most for the focus on the divine person of Christ and the nature of our lives in relation to the Trinity .
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